My doctor says NO! to peri-menopause

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My doctor says NO! to peri-menopause

Postby deb65 » Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:02 am

Hello to all.
I haven't been around for a while, but I am so fed up right now.
Since joining this site in January, I have been to my doctor a couple of times with different symptoms i.e painful heavy periods, palpitations and more recently migraine. Even before when I have asked him if my symptoms could be related to peri-menopause, he has said no because I am still having periods. I have tried to ask him again about peri-menopause but he just won't listen!
The migraine I had lasted nearly 4 days (Sunday to Wednesday) and started towards the end of my period. Nothing I took was helping so the doctor prescribed metoclopromide to help with the nausea. He also said it would help with the absorption of the nurofen and paracetamol that I had been taking. The migraine was so bad with severe pain in my left eye on the Tuesday I ended up going to see an eye specialist because I thought there was something seriously wrong with my eye (stabbing pain). After a full examination he said there was nothing wrong with either of my eyes, but he did ask me if I get dry eyes and prescibed drops for them. Funny that another post on here should mention trouble with sore eyes.
When I started with the migraine I was still on two weeks annual leave and had not been under any stress, but it hit me like a ton of bricks. I now feel ok again apart from my left eye is a little achey and they feel dry, but I am still putting in the drops. I go back to see the eye specialist on saturday morning.
Does anyone else suffer with migraine? This is a first for me, I would like to be prepared if I am going to get any more, so any advice on how to deal with them would be appreciated.
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Postby colopam » Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:17 am

I feel your pain (literally sometimes!! lol)
Obviously your doc doesn't believe in anything leading up to the grand finale of menopause, well we know it isn't just an on/off switch. Have had all of those symptoms (esp. the migraines) and have started on the anxiety (charted at a week before my period for a couple of cycles). I realy feel for you, it's sooo frustrating when you know more about the subject and no one will even listen. Have you thought about a different doc, at least for this?
Hope things are feeling better
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Postby Marchla » Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:32 am

Hello, I'm new here, but I just wanted to say that I have terrible headaches right before my period and have for years. I am 52 and still having periods although they are a very unpredictable lately. I feel your pain, also. Nothing helps the headaches and I also get nausea and sometime have an upset stomach when I get them. The only thing that helps me a little is doing some yoga and relaxation exercises.

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Postby colopam » Fri Aug 26, 2005 6:51 am

Deb65
I didn't elaborate, but I've tried some of the prescribed migraine meds and have yet to find one that doesn't throw me for a loop for 2-3 days, don't get me wrong they do help with the pain and the terrible nausea but I'm at a low level of functioning for a couple of days. My doc gave me a few different sample sizes to see what would work the best but I've always beenthe type of person that gets very strong effects from meds (high off Advil?? LOL???). I've been prone to headaches just before TOM as well as with some foods (father had migraines and they do tend to run in families from what I've read) poor man my mother never believed he had them until after I started getting them! With me she'd even come into my nice cold, dark, quiet retreat and open the shades, crank up the tv and the heat!!! OUCH!!!! NOTHING worse than vomiting while having one either!
It may take some trial and error for your doc to find what works for you. int the meantime Hugs!!! Pam
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Postby DayDreamer » Fri Aug 26, 2005 7:11 am

Hi Marchla. Welcome to Dee's forum.

I hope you find it as big a help as I do in finding other women in the same boat :D

take care.
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Postby minniepauz » Fri Aug 26, 2005 9:59 am

Ladies, please check out symptom #19 on this page: http://www.minniepauz.com/35symptoms.html

There are 3 very good links with info about headaches that are related to hormones (as most of them are). Consider the info about magnesium too!
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Postby deb65 » Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:04 am

Thanks Pam and Cheryl for the kind words. Yes Pam I am actually considering a different doctor, or at least being more assertive with my doctor and asking him to refer me to a specialist.

I also think a yoga class for beginners is a good idea Cheryl, I shall start looking for classes around my area. I work shifts and full time, but I am sure I can get to one class a week. Once I get the hang of it, I can do a little at home myself.

Thanks Dee for reminding us of the symptoms. I am going into town tomorrow morning and after my eye check up I am going to visit the herbalist shop nearby. I will certaintly be asking about magnesium supplements. I want to be ready next time, I don't want to keep taking time off work. I am feeling a little better today, just a little anxious and tired, but getting there.

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Postby minniepauz » Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:31 pm

Funny you should mention Yoga, because this company just sent me a dvd called Yoga for Menopause http://www.crystalclarity.com and they want to advertise with me, but I told them only if they offer my readers a discount. I'll let you know how it turns out. It's so new that this one is not even on their site yet, but if you can't wait, you could call them and I'm sure they'll sell you the dvd. He also told me there was a book coming out with it in December.

I've been planning to do a little more research and polling to find out how many women feel that yoga IS helping their path through the hormone jungle called peri-menopause, so the timing is good anyway.
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Postby Marchla » Fri Aug 26, 2005 5:57 pm

I started taking 600mg. of magnesium glycinate per day 3 weeks ago, and come to think of it, I have not had a headache. I did feel close to getting one the other night and I was afraid to go to sleep because I just knew I would wake up with one. But, lo and behold, I did not! Maybe it is working!

I took yoga class for the first time when I was in my mid-forties. That was when my perimenopause first started. Now I just use a dvd and do it at home every morning, and it has literally saved my sanity. When I couldn't do any other exercise I could always do my yoga. Something about the slow movements and relaxing into the poses just feels good to my aching joints.

The other thing that keeps me going is walking. I am prone to bad bouts of anxiety and sometimes walking is all that will relieve them. When that adrenaline gets to pumping through my system I have to do something to get rid of it.

Wow! It so helps to know that I'm not the only one going through this.

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Postby minniepauz » Fri Aug 26, 2005 6:16 pm

Thanks for the report on magnesium!! I hope it works for others as well as it did for you!!
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Postby drjudy » Sat Aug 27, 2005 8:49 pm

Migraines occurring around the time of a period are precipitated by dropping levels of estrogen. The changes in estrogen levels are even sharper during perimenopause, so migraines are particularly common during this phase. I find if I forget to change my estrogen patch, I start getting a mild migraine.

Some women find that using a low dose estrogen patch starting several days before the onset of their menstrual migraine will prevent the headache.

Yoga is also good. Magnesium is know to help with migraines, but it may take several months to work

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Postby Holistic Menopause » Fri Sep 02, 2005 12:46 pm

Most MD's simply don't distinguish between perimenopause and menopause. They lump it all into one word (menopause) and take a "one pill fits all" approach. Personally, I feel this is very dangerous and any suggestion for more estrogen during perimenopause is potentially dangerous. This includes an overuse of soy, phytoestrogens, "the Pill" and any form of synthetic HRT.

There are two distinctly different phases to this long transition -- estrogen dominance in peri and estrogen deficiency in meno and post. Both need to be addressed in specific ways. One is entirely different than the other.

In years passed, this transition was shorter. We didn't have the 5-15 years of perimenopause symptoms caused by an excess of estrogens. The added xenoestrogens in our foods and environment has created epidemic proportions of estrogen dominance. In perimenopause, when estrogen is high, more estrogen, in any way shape or form, is NOT what you need!

Guess I didn't address hormone related migraines. Some good info is posted here. However, in my personal experience, they are estrogen related. (Remember PMS) Again, balancing the hormones is the key. Not adding estrogen. (Unless you're meno or post, and even then, please avoid dangerous synthetics).

Also at issue when migraines and headaches are present is liver toxicity, hypothyroidism and adrenal exhaustion. All common conditions in perimenopause and menopause.

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Postby drjudy » Sat Sep 03, 2005 11:53 am

Hi Michelle,

Interesting web-site, and good point about the increased levels of estrogen in early perimenopause in that miserable state known as estrogen dominance. Do you find sometimes that even women in this phase may experience estrogen withdrawal in the few days right before and at the start of their period? I certainly have noted that.

Thanks for sharing,
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Postby Holistic Menopause » Sat Sep 03, 2005 1:05 pm

Hi Dr. Judy,

Thanks for your comments on my website. Holistic Menopause is forever evolving and so is my site. Check it again in just a couple of days!

Personally, I haven't noticed an estrogen "withdrawl" in the days just before my period. At this time in my transition, less estrogen is always a welcome event! Seriously though, this hasn't been an issue for me and I doubt for most estrogen dominant women. It's just before my period is due, as with PMS, that I am likely to experience headaches.

Still, I think it's always important to remember how unique we all are. What I experience, you just might not, and visa versa. What works me, may not for you. The key, in my opinion, is body awareness.

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Re: My doctor says NO! to peri-menopause

Postby cairncrazy » Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:56 pm

my primary care doctor was also sceptical, till i was explaining everything and low and behold...... massive hot flash right there while I was talking to him.

He believes now......
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