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How...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:17 am
by Brighid Moon
... do you get the willpower to stop?

I'm going through a lot of stress right now (peri-menopause just makes it worse, but it's not the only thing). I know all the information about quitting, and all the information about smoking - but I simply can not stop it. I'm not even sure it's a good idea to when I'm under so much stress (as it'll just add more on top of it). But I do want to quit.

I've tried three times. Each time never lasted more than a few days before I was ready to kill someone for a cigarette (even my rabid-anti-smoking friends have bought me packs telling me to start again, I'm so unbearable). :oops:

I absolutely do not want to take drugs to quit (including "the patch").

I just do not know how to do it. Willpower is not my strongest suit. Any workable suggestions aside from medications? It may not happen right now, but I want it to happen in the future! :?

On Edit: I smoke 3/4 of a pack to a pack a day, ultra-light 100s, native-blend (non-chemical).

Re: How...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:17 pm
by minniepauz
I'll try to tell you how I did it and it had nothing to do with willpower. I don't know if anything I say will help, but since you asked... I finally figured out that it was logic, common sense and being realistic that allowed me to quit. Wait until you are feeling the worst you've ever felt and you reach for a cigarette....that is the time to be realistic and imagine what COULD be happening if you just found out you had lung cancer, throat cancer or emphysema. In a moment of total clarity, I was able to imagine the reality of that scene and it "scared me straight". I've probably written this before on this board and on my site, but I could no longer make a case for myself to continue doing something that was so harmful, so repulsive, so stinky, so tasteless and on and on and on.

Now, remember, I was totally by myself but I couldn't find any logical reason to continue smoking. All of a sudden I started thinking of only the reasons why I should quit. And I told myself that it wasn't really that hard to NOT suck that smoke down my lungs.

So, my dear....it's a way of THINKING, not of willpower. Does any of this help? :)

Re: How...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:27 pm
by Brighid Moon
:D Yeah, it does help. Continuing thinking about it as "willpower" (knowing that's my weak suit) is frustrating. But thinking about it as a different way of thought about things (which is my strong suit) is a marvelous way to consider it! Much more empowering! Thanks! :D

Re: How...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:06 pm
by minniepauz
Good! It also puts the power back to you and not the cigarettes. :)

I'm so upset, because I added a bunch more stuff and it didn't post! I must have hit the delete button or something!! :( But I think you get the idea.....just every time you think of what you're doing (smoking or quitting), be realistic about what it's doing for you. Causing you harm or making you healthier? Making you hate yourself or being proud of yourself? YOU choose what is right for you.

With this attitude I didn't even get rid of my cigarettes. Everyone is different, only you know which is best....but I wanted to know that if I gave in and wanted to smoke, there they were. Somehow knowing they were there HELPED ME not to smoke! Weird, huh?

I used Commit lozenges for about a day and 1/2, but after that I just sucked on Lifesaver Sorbet candies (sugar free). LOVE those things! :) I smoked a pack to 2 packs a day for over 40 years....I was totally addicted and "loved" my cigarettes, but once I changed my thinking it was such a positive thing to be in charge! My grandkids were so proud of me...the kids too. And I smelled good! :)

Re: How...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:15 pm
by Brighid Moon
Ah! Lozenges! Now there's a good idea! I tried gum once and it was horrible! :yuck: I may look into those! If I can just get past the first few days I'm sure I could have it licked! Thank you! :mrgreen: I'll try that keeping them around too - it seems that when they're not available (and it's not my choice!) that I go more bonkers! :roll:

Re: How...

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:40 am
by Kris
I usually just pick a quit date and make up my mind to do it!! Willpower... your right is the issue!! The "last" time I quit, that very day I had a fire in my lab (One week after a complete remodel) I looked at the firemen and said.... "This probably wasn't a good day to quit smoking...huh?" We both laughed, but I continued not to smoke for two years after that and then stupidly started again after a very stressful day and out having a drink with friends! I had set my quit date for September 13th and plan to execute it come this Saturday!!
If i can get through this ........ I hope to NEVER put myself through this again!! No more lame excuses for me! :flower:

Re: How...

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:44 am
by minniepauz
I sure hope it works for you! I can tell you really want to quit, so I know you can do it! :) Just tell yourself it's really not that hard (what if you had to carry around an oxygen tank...now, THAT would be HARD!), they really taste horrible anyway, you're going to be feeling so much better about yourself. I saved myself $150 month!! I was able to get a much needed car (used) since I could afford the car payment once I quit. THAT's smart!

In the first few days I lit a few cigs when it got to the point where I thought I really wanted one....as soon as I lit it, I realized I really DIDN'T want it, it didn't taste good and it was easy to just put it out. I didn't feel bad about lighting it....didn't inhale and it made me happy to realize I was getting over the hump. Just like everyone, I had to go on a day to day basis, but those days add up and you realize you actually CAN live without smoking! :)

I had certain triggers that made me want a cigarette....like the phone ringing! ha! I was like Pavlov's dog. I got to the point where I would tell people I couldn't sit and talk on the phone for very long because the longer I talked, the more I thought about having a cigarette. I thought my car wouldn't move unless I had a lit cigarette. :)

Remember when I said you have to be realistic? I looked at pictures of smokers' lungs to try to get a true picture of what my lungs probably looked like. Here's a good video that shows some of the gross stuff smoking causes in our bodies. Don't avoid it like we've been doing for years...face it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn50mTEGnrU And if you have the stomach for it, there are many others on that youtube page. I used them as reinforcement that I was doing the right thing...even though I KNEW it was right!

One last push and then I'll shut up :) Because of smoking I went into early menopause, had to have cataract surgery in my mid 40's and had to have all my teeth pulled at 57. I also think cigarettes (and all the chemicals in them) are somewhat the cause of my having psoriasis over 80% of my body.

Re: How...

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:48 am
by minniepauz
Kris wrote:I usually just pick a quit date and make up my mind to do it!! Willpower... your right is the issue!! The "last" time I quit, that very day I had a fire in my lab (One week after a complete remodel) I looked at the firemen and said.... "This probably wasn't a good day to quit smoking...huh?" We both laughed, but I continued not to smoke for two years after that and then stupidly started again after a very stressful day and out having a drink with friends! I had set my quit date for September 13th and plan to execute it come this Saturday!!
If i can get through this ........ I hope to NEVER put myself through this again!! No more lame excuses for me! :flower:


Good for you, Kris!! We'll be here to support you. Like I said above....it's a way of thinking that makes the difference. If you're constantly thinking about how hard it is, you won't beat it, but if you tell yourself this is NOT the hardest thing you've ever done, it's the SMARTEST thing you've ever done, you will find yourself BELIEVING IT and it will be done!! :)

Re: How...

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:34 am
by minniepauz
I can't leave out humor.....it helps with quitting just like it has with menopause! :) Here's some funny videos:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... t=lf&hl=en

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 3253240769

http://www.jibjab.com/view/178429

The funniest ones are on tv!! Showing how hard it is to learn to do things without smoking. Have you seen them?

Re: How...

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:57 am
by Brighid Moon
Good luck, Kris! I'm rooting for you! And OMGosh about the fire starting! :lol: That is too ironic!

Dee, I wish I could watch videos on dial-up, but it takes so long to load I want to put my fist through the monitor after a bit! :wink: (Same thing with many websites - which only partially load.)

... if you tell yourself this is NOT the hardest thing you've ever done, it's the SMARTEST thing you've ever done, you will find yourself BELIEVING IT and it will be done!!


I'm so putting that on a sticky on my monitor!

Re: How...

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:14 pm
by Kris
Dee, I loved what you said...... "This is not the hardest thing I've ever done........................" I'm gonna use that as my mantra for awhile! Thanks! :smilebox:

Re: How...

PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:30 pm
by Shelby
I smoked like a chimney for 35 years. I tried everything under the sun to quit including the gum, patch, lozenges, hypnosis, etc. Somebody on a horseracing board (of all places) recommended a book, Allan Carr's Easy Way to Stop Smoking.....

It WORKED! It 'fixed' the part of my brain, or thinking that was stopping me from achieving full success.

So after trying all that gimmicky other stuff, I quit cold turkey and never looked back....it's been a year and 8 months, and it's like I never smoked at all.

Here is a "mantra" I wrote for myself out of that book, read it and BELIEVE IT!

MANTRA TO QUIT USING TOBACCO (KEEP REPEATING TO YOURSELF)

Smoking destroys your nerves.

Smoking creates, promotes, boredom.

Smoking ruins concentration.

Smoking is an irritant.

Smoking creates a void.

Smoking ruins meals.

Smoking destroys confidence.

Smokng ruins social occasions.

Smoking closes your mind.

Smoking causes paranoia.

Smoking deprives you of well-being and health.

It is a drug, nothing more.

It has no power. It is a weed.

It feeds an ugly evil parasite.

It is destructive slavery.

It oppresses, imprisons, kills.

There is no need to smoke.

You are no weaker than anyone else.

Withdrawal is very minor.

Difficulty quitting is just brainwash and lies. (Yes, you’ve been DUPED!)

Nothing bad is happening! There is nothing to fear!

There is freedom, happiness, without it.

Re: How...

PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 3:26 am
by Brighid Moon
:D I hadn't seen your post before! Thank you, Shelby! I'm going to write all those down.

I noticed since I've moved that my smoking has gone down by about 1/3. So today I limited myself to 10 cigarettes (a half of what I used to normally smoke) and it was great! I didn't go past it at all! I figure if I'm not in a place to quit quite yet, at least I can cut back. It's a start!

Re: How...

PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:44 am
by Shelby
Brighid Moon wrote::D I hadn't seen your post before! Thank you, Shelby! I'm going to write all those down.

I noticed since I've moved that my smoking has gone down by about 1/3. So today I limited myself to 10 cigarettes (a half of what I used to normally smoke) and it was great! I didn't go past it at all! I figure if I'm not in a place to quit quite yet, at least I can cut back. It's a start!


I recommend you go on http://www.amazon.com and order the book I mentioned. Just get the cheapest used copy they have. Take your time reading it. Read some, then think about what you've read.

Good luck!

Re: How...

PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:27 pm
by Brighid Moon
Day five without a cigarette! Using the lozenges, cutting them in 1/4s and sucking a bit at a time when it gets really bad. Getting over the smoking part before dealing with the nicotine part, which I suspect will be much easier. Considering the amount of stress I've been undergoing recently, and still am, and as emotional and angered as I've been lately, I think five days is pretty good! I'm pretty stubborn. :mrgreen: